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SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:33 pm
by Cyborg
I've been trying to get used to the Israel theater and the lack of harms and targeting pod to use against the sams is making it impossible. There are multiple SA17's all along the FLOT and I haven't been able to even come close to killing one.

Does anybody have any advice on tactics to evade/engage SA17s with CBU's?
I've tried coming in at 300 feet but the flat terrain makes that not very effective. I'v tried beaming the missiles which works at longer ranges but is ineffective at medium and closer. I have no intel on their position so that is complicating things even further.

I'm thinking it may come down to having 4 human pilots doing a true wild weasel mission with one person drawing fire while the others VID the launchers and take them out CCIP. If this is how it has to be done I'd really like to put up a training mission for us to practice before I start the campaign. We would really need to figure out what is the best way to evade the missiles.

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:21 am
by Wayc00lio
Have you tried lofting them in from low level?

If you have the SA17s as a precision stpt, you can run in at 50 ft in CCRP with the stpt selected (cursor zero first) and climb on the loft cue, release at around 4k and slice back and get outta dodge. This may give you enough stand off range. It works nicely on some SAM/AAA units but I've not tried it on SA17s. Might be worth a shot.

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:46 am
by Wayc00lio
If this doesn't work I'll be happy to join you trying to figure it out. Should be online tonight :-)

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:34 pm
by Silver_Hawk
Cyborg I'm happy to practice with you. Let me know. Which aircraft are you using so I can practice?

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 5:02 pm
by showboat
Where can I download the Israel theater you are using Cyborg?

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 10:15 pm
by Cyborg
F-16C-30-IAF Silverhawk.

I'm always up for practice if you see me on in the BMS TS.

Here you go Showboat.
https://www.bmsforum.org/forum/showthre ... -0-Release

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 10:33 pm
by Cyborg
Actually, 1.01 is out. I'll be updating to that.
https://www.bmsforum.org/forum/showthre ... BMS-4-33-1

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 10:00 pm
by Silver_Hawk
Cyborg version 1.03 is the current Israeli theater.

https://www.bmsforum.org/forum/showthre ... BMS-4-33-3

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:04 am
by Cyborg
Thanks SilverHawk. I finally got a good start to the campaign with intel on some of the air defense. I need 4 pilots to attack an SA6 and SA17 site. A few extra for escort would also be great.

Re: SA17 Without Harms

Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:02 pm
by Wayc00lio
When do you want to fly this Cyborg? I'm not available now during the week and possibly only one day during the weekend.

Also, did you have any luck against SA17s? Did you try it in a TE?